MASTER CARTON!

Written by Ralph on 27th January, 2012

LIONEL POST WAR 2368 B & O F3s,W/RARE GREY SHELL,MINT +,UN RUN,W/MASTER CARTON!

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THIS WEEK WE HAVE SOMETHING VERY SCARCE FOR HIGH-END POST WAR F-3 COLLECTORS, A PAIR OF 2368 BALTIMORE & OHIO F-3 ENGINES WITH THE RARE “GREY SHELL” VERSION! THE UNITS ALSO HAVE THE ORIGINAL BOXES, LINERS, AND VERY RARE “MASTER CARTON” AND ALL PAPEPWORK! THE BOXES ARE THE HIGHEST-GRADE THAT I HAVE EVER SEEN FOR F-3’s! THE RARE 1956 MASTER CARTON IS EXTREMELY HARD TO FIND IN THIS CONDITION! THE TRAINS ARE TOTALLY MINT + AND UN-RUN! **SEE PHOTOS** LIONEL POST-WAR 2368 BALTIMORE & OHIO F-3 A-B UNITS, IN MINT+ C-10 CONDITION! THE 2368 BALTIMORE & OHIO F-3 IS EXTREMELY RARE WITH THE GREY SHELL ON THE “A” UNIT. THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE BLUE PLASTIC SHELLS. LIONEL MADE A FEW 2368’s ON GREY SHELLS, WHEN THEY RAN OUT OF THE BLUE PLASTIC SHELLS. THE LIONEL EMPLOYEES PAINTED BLUE OVER THE GREY SHELLS SO ALL OF THE SHELLS MATCHED FOR THE FINAL PAINTING. SEE THE BOOK “LIONEL’S POSTWAR F-3’s” BY JOE ALGOZZINI, page 44. NOTE: THIS IS THE RAREST VERSION OF THE 2368 BALTIMORE & OHIO F-3’s! Spectacular matching pair! See grading chart and descriptions below. THESE BEAUTIES HAVE A RARITY GRADE OF 10, OUT OF 1-10 SCALE. THESE UNITS ARE MINT+ AND ARE UN-RUN, ALSO HAVING THE ORIGINAL ELUSIVE MASTER CARTON! BALTIMORE & OHIO F-3 A-B Units, in matching fresh from the factory condition! The “A” unit HAS NO CRACK IN THE NOSE, WHICH IS VERY COMMON FOR THIS PIECE, AS THE LENSES MUST HAVE BEEN INSTALLED TO TIGHTLY.. (see photos). The yellow heat-stamped numbers and lettering on both pieces are strong, bold, and clear. The highest-grade pristine gray roofs, and bright-white sides that I have seen! The original patina on the white nose is spectacular. Magnificent black pilot and awesome black frames, again in pristine condition. No rust or corrosion on original horns, ladders or battery cover. . PLEASE REMEMBER THAT THESE WERE MADE FOR A SHORT PERIOD DURING ONE YEAR, 1956. THIS PAIR HAS THE HIGHEST-SHEEN, ORIGINAL FACTORY LUSTER THAT I HAVE SEEN for 2368’S! HAVE YOU EVER SEEN AN ORIGINAL PAIR, UN-RUN, WITH A MASTER CARTON WITH THE ORIGINAL PATINA? WELL THESE TWO HAVE IT! LOOK AT PHOTOS! TRULY A SPECTACULAR MATCHING PAIR OF F-3’S! TO FIND THE ORIGINAL MASTER CARTON WITH MINT+ BALTIMORE AND OHIO F-3’s IS TRULY A RARE FEAT! The set also comes with the dated instructions, inspection sticker, and correct “Service Station Booklet”, plus the 2 high-grade sheets of the hard to find original waxed wrapping paper. They also come with the 1956 “LIONEL TRAINS WITH MAGNE-TRACTION” CATALOG IN A GRADE 10. Original dated box 2368-12 is a grade 10. Original box 2368-18 is a grade 9/10 and has all flaps attached, with NO WRITING AND NO TAPING. The original box insert for this box, is a very high-grade 9/10. The very rare 2368-13 Master carton is extremely rare and is a grade 9, which is extremely high-grade for this elusive Master Carton. The rare Master Carton has the original corner tape. All of the flaps are attached. No taping! There is no writing on the Master carton! VERY RARE AS THESE MASTER CARTONS USUALLY HAVE WRITING ON THEM, SUCH AS A PRICE OR STORE NAME! THIS IS THE HIGHEST-GRADE SET OF BOXES THAT I HAVE EVER SEEN FOR ANY F-3 SET, WITH THE MASTER CARTON! This magnificent high-end BALTIMORE & OHIO pair is definitely for the display shelf.. From 1956 and in MINT+ un-run condition****SEE PHOTOS****REMEMBER, THE TRAINS ARE TOTALLY UN-RUN! AN EXCEPTIONAL SET, UN-RUN, WITH THE RARE “GREY SHELL VERSION”, AND ALL ORIGINAL!! Latest book and market value (shows, live auctions, private sales, internet, etc.) on this pair, in this condition, MINT+ WITH MASTER CARTON, is $ 6800.00 – 9200.00, at live auction it can go much higher! AT THE TCA SHOW AT YORK, I SAW A SET OF 2368’s WITH A MASTER CARTON SELL FOR $9200.00 APPROXIMATLEY 5 YEARS AGO, AND THEY WERE ABOUT AS NICE AS THESE! BUT THEY DID NOT HAVE THE RARE “GREY SHELL VERSION”! I KNOW THE DEALER THAT SOLD THEM, AND HE BUYS FROM ME! NO NAMES PLEASE. THIS MAGNIFICENT SET IS TRULY FOR THE HIGH-END COLLECTION! A NOTE FOR MY FAITHFUL FRIENDS AND CUSTOMERS OF HIGH-END POST-WAR, DO NOT LET THESE GET AWAY FROM YOU! YOU KNOW THE QUALITY OF MY ENGINES AND THE COLLECTIONS THAT I BRING IN, AND THESE ARE VERY SPECIAL AND ELUSIVE TRAINS. I am very particular in choosing trains. They must be high-grade, rare, and very desirable. Please feel very comfortable in your bidding as I try to buy only the best from collections or at live auctions, where I have examined the item! ON THE BOTTOM OF SOME ENGINES SUCH AS F-3’s: IF YOU LOOK AT THE PHOTOS, ANY BRIGHT SILVER OR CHROME SPOT, SOMETIMES WILL LOOK GOLDEN. THIS IS NOT RUST OR CORROSION. THE CHROME IS SO CLEAN AND BRIGHT, THAT WHEN THE CAMERA FLASH GOES OFF, IT BOUNCES BACK AS YELLOW. THAT IS BECAUSE THE FLASH HAS A YELLOW GLOW, AND THE CHROME IS AS BRIGHT AS A MIRROR. REMEMBER, NO RUST OR CORROSION! THIS GOLDEN GLOW LOOK SOMETIMES HAPPENS ON THE PICK-UP ARMS. ****ALL BIDDERS MUST READ THE FOLLOWING BEFORE THEY BID.**** PAYMENT MUST BE MADE WITHIN 5 DAYS FROM THE END OF AUCTION DATE, THIS IS A PROFESSIONAL COURTESY RULE, KINDLY FOLLOW IT. WE PREFER PAYMENT BY PAYPAL, SO WE CAN SHIP TO YOU IMMEDIATELY. **YOU MUST EMAIL US WITHIN 2 DAYS AFTER THE AUCTION, TO LET US KNOW THE STATUS OF YOUR PAYMENT, THIS IS A MUST, SO WE KNOW IF YOU RECEIVED THE INVOICE, AND HOW YOU ARE GOING TO PAY US. AGAIN A PROFESSIONAL COURTESY RULE.**The winning bidder will be charged for Shipping, Insurance, and packaging. WE GIVE A DISCOUNTED RATE FOR UPS CHARGES FOR OUR EBAY CUSTOMERS. WE PAY PART OF THE CHARGES AS A THANK YOU TO THE BUYER. If you have any questions about shipping costs, please E-mail me before you bid. Payment can be by PAYPAL (preferred). The item has been looked at by collectors, who have been collecting and examining antique toys for over 30 years. ITEMS OVER $ 100.00 IN VALUE WILL BE SHIPPED VIA UPS AND INSURED. UPS DOES NOT SHIP TO A POSTAL BOX, ONLY TO A REGULAR STREET SHIPPING ADDRESS. PLEASE DO NOT TELL ME AFTER YOU WON AN ITEM THAT YOU DID NOT READ THIS! WE DO NOT SHIP TO A POST OFFICE BOX! IF THE ITEM HAS A VALUE OF OVER $ 1000.00, THEN UPS REQUIRES A SIGNATURE CARD. THIS CARD COSTS $8.00. THIS IS A UPS RULE AND CHARGE, NOT OUR RULE, SO DO NOT BLAME US. This is an auction, all sales are final, so ask questions before you bid. I try very hard to be accurate! Read the description, and look at the photos carefully, and please feel comfortable with our items and service. OUR GRADING SYSTEM: An amalgamation of grading systems from multiple auction houses, and grading services such as PSA in California, plus over 30 years of my buying at auction and shows. Highest to Lowest: 10= GEM-MINT, OR MINT+ (LOOKS FACTORY FRESH, NO FLAWS) 9= MINT, IS EXTREMELY HIGH-GRADE, BUT DUE TO ITEM BEING OVER 50 YEARS OLD, SHOWS AGE IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, SUCH AS MUTED LUSTER, OR A RUB ON THE ITEM, AS BY TRUCKS RUBBING AGAINST PLASTIC, OR A MINUTE SCRATCH FROM SOMEONE TAKING IT OUT OF THE BOX, ETC. 8= MINT-(MINUS), IS LESS THAN MINT. AT FIRST APPEARANCE IT IS MINT, BUT UNDER CLOSE EXAMINATION, THERE ARE A FEW MORE RUBS, MINUTE SCRATCHES, ETC. MOST DEALERS AT SHOWS, WOULD CALL THIS TYPE OF AN ITEM MINT, DUE TO THE AGE OF THE PIECE. TRAINS ON A FEW OCCASIONS MIGHT HAVE A TEST RUN LINE ON WHEELS, EMAIL TO ASK IF THIS BOTHERS YOU, BEFORE BIDDING. THANK YOU. EVERYTHING HAS TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION, INCLUDING THE AGE FACTOR. 7=NEAR-MINT, SOME SCRATCHES, RUBS, MAYBE A CRIMP OR TWO SHOWING MINOR PLAYTIME, BUT STILL VERY HIGH GRADE ITEM. AGAIN, TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THE AGE OF THE PIECE, IT MIGHT HAVE MINUTE AREAS OF OXIDATION. THIS IS STILL A VERY HIGH-GRADE PIECE. 6=NEAR-MINT-/EXCELLENT+, BETTER THAN THE AVERAGE PIECE YOU SEE AT SHOWS. HAS SOME SCRATCHES, MAYBE A MINUTE INDENTATION, MAYBE A RUB HERE OR THERE. PIECE IS STILL ALL ORIGINAL, WITH NO REPAINTING. THERE MAY BE AREAS OF OXIDATION OR FLAKING. THESE YOU WOULD FIND AT SHOWS. 5=EXCELLENT, IS THE AVERAGE PIECE THAT YOU WOULD FIND AT A SHOW. THERE MIGHT BE SCRATCHES, RUBS, OR MINUTE INDENTATIONS; OR MIGHT ALSO HAVE SOME LIGHTCORROSION. PIECE MUST BE ALL ORIGINAL, WITH NO REPAINTING. 4=EXCELLENT/VG, IS BASICALLY THE SAME AS A 5, EXCEPT IT MIGHT HAVE HEAVIER CORROSION SPOTS OR DEEPER RUST. AGAIN, THIS IS WHAT YOU WOULD FIND AT A SHOW. STILL A NICE ANTIQUE PIECE. 3=VG OR VERY GOOD, THIS WOULD HAVE SCRATCHES, DENTS, HEAVY CORROSION OR RUST IN MANY SPOTS. THESE TYPES OF GRADED ITEMS ARE USUALLY GROUPED TOGETHER AT AN AUCTION. ALSO MIGHT HAVE SOME REPAIR OR TOUCHUP. THESE STILL MAKE A VERY NICE ANTIQUE FOR DISPLAY PURPOSES, OR TO START A COLLECTION. 2=FAIR OR GOOD, THIS WOULD BE THE SAME AS A 3, EXCEPT IT MIGHT ALSO HAVE SOME REPLACED PARTS, AND A GREAT DEAL OF RUST. SOME DEALERS USE THESE FOR PARTS. 1=POOR, TOO MANY PROBLEMS, JUST USE THIS TYPE OF AN ITEM FOR PARTS. ***PLEASE NOTE THAT THE INCLUSION OF THE ORIGINAL BOX WOULD INCREASE THE GRADE BY ½ TO A WHOLE GRADING POINT. OBVIOUSLY THE ORIGINAL BOXES ARE VERY RARE. THIS GRADING SYSTEM HAS BEEN AROUND FOR AT LEAST 12 YEARS NOW, AND IS USED FOR BASEBALL CARDS, ANTIQUE TOYS, COMICS, ANTIQUE GLASSWARE, ART, AND ANTIQUE COLLECTIBLES OF ALL SORTS. HOPE THIS HELPS YOU, AS I HAVE GRADED MANY COLLECTIONS, AND HAVE HELPED MANY AUCTION HOUSES WITH THEIR GRADINGS. This is my grading system, not someone else’s, so if you disagree, ask questions, before you bid, so we can clarify the grading. We will try very hard to make sure that you understand the grading. This is very important to us and to you. If you still do not understand the grading system, kindly email me before you bid, and I will gladly answer your questions, before you bid. We go out of our way to make sure you have all of the information you need to bid. I TRY TO BUY ONLY THE HIGHEST QUALITY THAT I CAN FIND! Thank you and happy bidding! PLEASE BE VERY REALISTIC WITH YOUR BIDDING! THIS IS A DESIRABLE AND HARD TO FIND PIECE! I HAVE SET THE RESERVE AT A PRICE THAT IS BELOW MARKET VALUE, AND BELOW A PRICE THAT YOU WOULD PAY AT A LIVE AUCTION, OR A COLLECTOR SHOW, OR A PRIVATE SALE. BUT AGAIN, IT IS A REALISTIC RESERVE PRICE SHOWING THE ITEMS QUALITY AND LATEST VALUE, NOT A 3 YEAR OLD BOOK VALUE! ALL CONTENTS OF THE LISTING IS SOLELY THE OPINION OF THE LISTER. THANK YOU AND HAPPY BIDDING!

LIONEL POST WAR 2368 B & O F3s,W/RARE GREY SHELL,MINT +,UN RUN,W/MASTER CARTON!

LIONEL POST-WAR 2368 B & O F3’s,W/RARE GREY SHELL,MINT +,UN-RUN,W/MASTER CARTON!

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